Hive Works part 2 aka VibeDroneBeeWolfQueen

[Graham72]

I decided to throw caution to the wind and with extreme hubris began using UZI as an OS for Hive Works.

That led me to discover FUZIX and I have got it booting but the keyboard is just crazy. I press a key and get 10-15 bounces.

Anybody succesfully using FUZIX?

   

[fathertedcrilly]

Never heard of it before.
One to file onto the pile to look at later

Do you know how the tty driver in UZI talks to the keyboard hardware ?

[Graham72]

Never heard of it before.
One to file onto the pile to look at later

Do you know how the tty driver in UZI talks to the keyboard hardware ?

no, UZI was way to hard. 
I found that Fuzix was polling keyboard like crazy, so used the emulator to stomp on the polling.

Succesfully booting with over 231 files:
120 — core commands, editors, HIVE and tests
60 — additional utilities
and 51 games 
plus helper files.

Impressive little OS - never heard of it until yesterday. Now to wrap my brain around all the commands and file structure. Hive is coming along.

   
   

[Graham72]

Telstar on Fuzix. If anyone is interested I can provide two .dsk images for minimal boot.

[fathertedcrilly]

Telstar on Fuzix. If anyone is interested I can provide two .dsk images for minimal boot.

I wonder how compatible Telstar is with the bee Viatel client.

When I've finished the PIO module,  I'm going to need to test it out with real-world data

Thanks
Tony

[Graham72]

Viatel is Australia's variant of Prestel/viewdata. Telstar is a modern viewdata server, so its pages are the same format: 40×24 text, ESC-coded colour and attributes, mosaic graphics, double height, flash, and * / # navigation.

The ROM only has to render that stream and send keystrokes, so it doesn't care which host is behind it.

Where they differ
Line speed: real Viatel is 1200/75 (V.23). The Microbee receives at 1200 and sends at 75. Telstar over TCP doesn't care, so the gateway fakes the modem handshake and carrier, and the data arrives as a plain byte stream.

Pacing: TCP can deliver faster than the 1200 baud the ROM expects. If pages garble or drop characters, the gateway needs to throttle to about 120 chars/sec.

Pages and features: Telstar pages are standard Prestel-style frames. Anything beyond that (telesoftware downloads, response frames, newer extensions) may not be handled by the Viatel ROM.

Connection setup: the ROM expects a dial and answer sequence. Telstar just opens a socket, so the gateway has to present "CONNECT" and carrier at the right moment.

On actual hardware speed may be of a real consequence.

[fathertedcrilly]

Viatel is Australia's variant of Prestel/viewdata. Telstar is a modern viewdata server, so its pages are the same format: 40×24 text, ESC-coded colour and attributes, mosaic graphics, double height, flash, and * / # navigation.

The ROM only has to render that stream and send keystrokes, so it doesn't care which host is behind it.

Where they differ
Line speed: real Viatel is 1200/75 (V.23). The Microbee receives at 1200 and sends at 75. Telstar over TCP doesn't care, so the gateway fakes the modem handshake and carrier, and the data arrives as a plain byte stream.

Pacing: TCP can deliver faster than the 1200 baud the ROM expects. If pages garble or drop characters, the gateway needs to throttle to about 120 chars/sec.

Pages and features: Telstar pages are standard Prestel-style frames. Anything beyond that (telesoftware downloads, response frames, newer extensions) may not be handled by the Viatel ROM.

Connection setup: the ROM expects a dial and answer sequence. Telstar just opens a socket, so the gateway has to present "CONNECT" and carrier at the right moment.

On actual hardware speed may be of a real consequence.

Funnily enough,  just paged over to the microbee facebook group and someone has build an serial to IP bridge

And then accessed a Telstar instance using the viatel client

Thanks
Tony

[Graham72]

Yes, that was my inspiration. See my Viatel Lives thread with PC85 version available for download.

[Graham72]

    After much gnashing of teeth, build after build and testing game after game as well as interrupts and other thingamajigs I think I have managed to merge all into one build.

One change here caused problems there. Fixing problems there caused issues in Pak games.

Anyway this build I hope allows a range of emulations using Basic Roms, Premium PC85 Roms, Game Pak Roms, CF cp/m boots, and  FUZIX .5.

Test away and let me know what fails, please.

[Graham72]

for those wanting to try FUXIX : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1c7BoJwV...sp=sharing
BOOTDEV HDA1
PASSWORD root

VTX is the telstar client on the build.